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October 21, 2003
Return to Sleepaway Camp: The Story of a Lowly Extra

This past weekend, I had an opportunity to do something I've wanted to try for a long time: I was an extra in a horror movie. And not just any horror movie, mind you, but a sequel to the cult classic Sleepaway Camp, directed by the original director and featuring much of the original cast. Here's the full story...

First, let me give you a little background on the Sleepaway Camp series. The original came out in 1983, around the time that the Friday the 13th series was making summer camp-themed horror movies popular. But Sleepaway Camp had quite a few different elements that really helped it stand out from the standard slasher fare of the era. Don't get me wrong... it was no masterpiece, but the deaths were creative, the characters were unique, and the plot had a number of good twists. As a horror fan from the time I was 10 or 11, I frequently saw Sleepaway Camp on the shelf at the video store (it was available in pretty much any mom-and-pop video store throughout the 80s and 90s), but I didn't rent it until I was in my mid-teens and a friend of mine told me that his uncle was in it, playing the father than got run over by the boat in the beginning of the movie. I rented it and immediately, it became one of "my movies," one of those movies I'd go to again and again, slowly building an obsession of sorts.

There were two sequels to Sleepaway Camp, directed by a different person than the original. They took a much more humorous approach to horror, as was the fashion when they came out in the late-1980s. The lead character was played by Pamela Springsteen... yes, Bruce's sister. They were both fun movies, but I always had a preference for the dark grittiness of the original. Oddly, even among the small group of rabid Sleepaway Camp fans, there are two distinct factions: those that prefer Robert Hiltzik's original and those that prefer Michael Simpson's two sequels. Quite frankly, I enjoyed them all and can't help but laugh at the little fanboy disputes that have ensued in recent years.

So, a few years back, I e-mailed back-and-forth with Jeff Hayes, the webmaster of SleepawayCampMovies.com (who, at the time, was co-running the site with the current webmaster of SleepawayCampFilms.com, before they had a dispute and went separate ways... are you confused yet?). I hooked them up with Dan Tursi, my friend's uncle that was in the first movie, for an interview. From that point on, we kept in touch and Jeff kept me informed about the Return to Sleepaway Camp script that Robert Hiltzik was dying to shoot. Hiltzik stepped away from the movie business altogether after the original movie, so this "return" 20 years after the fact is quite a story. In addition, Hayes' site really helped bring notice back to Felissa Rose, who played Angela in the original movie. Though she was missing in action for over 15 years, in the last five years she's worked on almost ten new horror movies. The Sleepaway Camp story is an inspiring one for any rabid fan who's ever dreamed of meeting his idols and even reviving a series many people thought was long dead.

(It should be noted that a fourth Sleepaway Camp began filming in 1992 with yet another director, but was axed before it really got off the ground. From the footage seen on the bonus fourth disc in the special box set, it looked to be a pretty awful movie.)

So, here we are in 2003, after several years of rumors surrounding Return to Sleepaway Camp, and now it's finally in production (pretty well funded thanks to an extra from the original movie!). Jeff was kind enough to set me up with the woman in charge of casting the extras and two weeks later, I was driving six hours to Camp Starlight in way-northern Pennsylvania.

I took Friday off so that I could make most of the drive up in the light. Lake Como and Starlight, PA are definitely "out there." The last 25 miles of the trip were on woodsy back roads where I saw maybe two or three other cars. I even passed a pair of bears on the side of the road. Friggin' bears.

I stayed at the Lake Como Inn, a combination inn/restaurant/bar. The rooms were really nicely decorated, the bathrooms were clean and much more like someone's house than a hotel, and the price was right. Plus, I was the only guest. The only thing that kept this from being the perfect place to stay was the bar: it was open until 2am each night, and the loud jukebox and rowdy "yeeeeee-haw!"s woke me up a number of times. The two territorial German Shepherds also woke me up, once at 4am by crashing into my door and startling me awake thinking someone was trying to get in. Nevertheless, the stay was fine and it was a good home base for me during the shoot.

Saturday morning, I got up early and after locking myself out of my room and being let back in, I headed over to the campsite, about four miles away. After parking and beginning the long walk to the extras holding area, I ran into Anthony, the line manager, who helped direct me to the proper building. I got inside and the room was already filled with a couple dozen kids. As I wrote my name and age on the sign-in sheet, I noticed that everyone else on the page was 13, 14, maybe 15 years old. I felt a gray hair sprout as I wrote "28."

I was sent over to wardrobe, who applauded me for bringing some of own gear, and hooked me up with a Camp Manabe counselor t-shirt, presumably because I can no longer pass as a middle school student despite the fact most of them are taller than me. I then went back to the extras holding area and waited.

And waited.

And waited.

One of the things I found out during that morning of waiting: as annoying and stupid as The Fast and The Furious is the first time, it's even worse the second time around. During that morning, I spoke briefly with Sue, who runs SopranoSue.com, a Sopranos-stalker... er, "sightings"... web site. I'll reserve any further comment.

I also hung out with Dan and Chelsea, a 17-year-old couple who had seen one of the fliers calling for extras at a video store or Wal-Mart. They'd never seen the original movie, but were looking forward to being extras nonetheless. It was at that moment I realized that 95% of the people in that room weren't even born when the first Sleepaway Camp was released. Yikes.

Late in the morning, they called for all the male extras. Except me. Because I'm old. "You're a counselor," they told me, "We'll need you soon, but not in this shot."

There were no major star-sightings in the morning, aside from getting to say a quick hello to Vincent Pastore (the Sopranos' "Big Pussy") as he walked by.

Lunchtime rolled around and I had grown weary of the loud noise and staring at the same carpet for hours on end. At least, I thought, lunch was a chance to eat with the cast and crew and get out of that holding area. As it turns out, the cast and crew were eating separately, feeding on freezer-burned hot dogs and hamburgers at the barbecue pit while the rest of us were served chicken nuggets, onion rings, and salad in the cafeteria (obviously, for me, this translated to just salad). As excited as I was to be there, I was also a bit frustrated.

After lunch, we were rounded back to the holding area. Not too long after, they called for a group of guys that hadn't been in the previous shot. This time I was brought in to be an extra in a cafeteria scene. I sat at the end of a table—I was a counselor, after all—with a few other guys, including Dan. The shot focused on a character that stood right by me and threw a small megaphone off-camera. We were instructed to eat and pretend-talk until the guy said his line and threw the megaphone, at which point we were told to laugh. My total face time: maybe 3 or 4 seconds. Chance of face time: pretty good, since I was sitting by the guy that delivered the lines.

When that scene was done, we were sent back to the holding area. By this point, it was about 3 o'clock. We were told they'd be shooting another cafeteria scene that would require all of us. As the minutes and hours ticked by, we were told over and over "just a few more minutes," until at about 5:30, we were finally informed that they wouldn't be shooting that scene and we could go home. As annoyed as I was with the total lack of action on Saturday, I felt really bad for all of the female extras, who didn't even get to be on set once.

For dinner, I didn't feel like returning to the inn where I had a very mediocre spaghetti dish the night before, so I decided to drive around the middle of nowhere (which is exactly where Starlight, PA is located) until I found something. That something was a great little place called Mrs. Pizza in Lakewood, PA. Good food and good conversation hit the spot after a disappointing day.

Sunday morning, I woke up early, made sure not to lock myself out of my room while I showered, and headed out to the set for the second and final day of my involvement. I told myself this was going to be a better day and apparently, that worked, because it was a much more enjoyable time, even though I was there for almost 11 hours. As soon as I got into the extras area, they told me I was needed, so I dropped my backpack, picked up my shirt from wardrobe, and headed back up to the cafeteria. In this one I was in the distant background of another scene that involved a counselor telling the movie's protagonist, "Maybe if you weren't such a wanker, your brother wouldn't be hitting on your girlfriend," in a deep British accent. I was eventually moved as they shot closer because they didn't want me to be recognized from the scene the day before at the table across the cafeteria. During this shot, my total face time: almost nil. Chance of face time: almost nil.

They moved me to a distant corner table with Jeff Hayes, his girlfriend, and a couple of older men. We served as shadows for main characters that were supposed to be sitting there. I think I was supposed to be Ronnie (the guy from the first movie with the short-shorts) even though he was elsewhere in the scene.

After those scenes were done, I ended up hanging around the set rather than going back to the holding area, just because I could. It was so much nicer at least being close to the action, even if I wasn't involved at the moment. Throughout the morning and afternoon, I met a number of cast members, including Felissa Rose (Angela), Jonathan Tierston (Ricky), and Paul DeAngelo (Ronnie). When I was sitting at the corner table during one of the shoots, Ronnie came over and stood behind me near a small heater to warm up his legs. I joked with him that "at least your shorts are a little longer than they were in the first movie." I thought it was funny, but he just found it mildly amusing.

I also got to meet some of the younger stars of the movie, many of whom were in their first major or supporting roles. I was pleasantly surprised that these kids, and they really are just kids, were really mature and friendly, more than happy to pose for pictures with people and chat. It was refreshing to see people just getting into "the business" enjoying the attention rather than trying to dodge it.

Lunchtime on Sunday everyone really did eat together and the spread of food was significantly better. Still, not exactly gourmet, but it was filling and I had a few options beyond salad.

Sunday afternoon involved more waiting, but again it was around the set, so it was much more enjoyable. Late in the day, they did a handful of "crowd shots" in the cafeteria. I went back to my counselor position of the day before, but then was picked out (by the director!) to move to a different table to fill in a slightly more important empty chair. This was the last scene of the entire movie shoot involving extras, and some of the kids were getting a bit rowdy. When we were told to go ahead and talk, laugh, and pretend we were at camp, a couple of the tables decided to start a full-blown food fight. The director didn't yell, though, so the fight may make it onto the film. Nice.

I had a few more chances to be on camera, as I may have been in the frame during some other characters' lines. I'm hoping my exaggerated reaction at least managed to get my hand or head into frame. Possible face time: 8-10 seconds. Chance of face time: decent, about the same as Saturday.

Before heading out, I chatted briefly with director Robert Hiltzik and some more with Jeff Hayes. I didn't get on the road until 6:45pm and made the drive back to VA in almost one five-hour shot. I got home around midnight and was up for the work the next morning. As the boys in the bar would say, "yeee-haw!"

All-around, it was a great experience. Even if it was an awful lot of sitting and waiting, I really enjoyed being on the set. And since it was a pretty small group of extras (about 25 people) on a relatively small budget movie, it was much more intimate than, say, the scene in Gandhi with 100,000 extras. The cast and crew had clearly become like a family, as cliche as that sounds, and some camaraderie even developed among the extras who were around for the weekend. Thanks to Jeff Hayes and Shari Houtman for giving me the opportunity, and to everyone I met during the shoot.

Return to Sleepaway Camp is set for theatrical release in late-Spring/early-summer 2004.

(Now, check out some pictures from the weekend.)

04:59 PM


Comments

"Mrs. Pizza"?! I can't get over that name!

Posted by: Robert on October 21, 2003 6:36 PM

I bet this film will also be enjoyable just like Gandhi.

Posted by: Matt on October 21, 2003 8:53 PM

Matt -- Yeah, the two movies do have a similar social message.

Posted by: Ryan on October 21, 2003 9:51 PM

What percentage of the gross are you expected to receive?

Posted by: David on October 22, 2003 9:38 AM

Since I paid gas money and hotel money, I guess that makes it a negative percentage.

Posted by: Ryan on October 22, 2003 9:51 AM

Somebody needs an agent

Posted by: David on October 22, 2003 12:55 PM

Ha I just happened to stumble on your blog while searching for sleepaway camp junk...mike the lead role is a close friend of mine, and some of your pictures have other friends who went up to be extras in the movie in them. made my night. btw the url i left may have some other sleepaway camp pictures on it from the filming, it's mine and mike's band.

Posted by: Ryan on October 24, 2003 8:57 PM

Quick question. Are they still shooting at the camp or are they done? Thanks!

Posted by: Cliff on November 7, 2003 2:53 PM

I was the stupid kid who started the whole food fight on sunday ended up getting a chicken wing thrown at me lol stumbled on your blog while looking for sleepaway camp stuff...

Posted by: sean bensen on November 7, 2003 9:49 PM

I cant wait to see the film. Expecially because Greg Raposo is going to be in it. I totally flipped when i found out. He is my favorite Singer/artist ever! I havent seen any sleepaway movies, but im sure i will soon. :)

Posted by: Krysti on November 7, 2003 10:48 PM

I was just wondering if this film is going right to video and dvd or not?

Posted by: Chris on November 18, 2003 1:45 PM

There will likely be some sort of theatrical run (whether it's limited or not yet depends on the distribution deal). I'm sure the main RTSC site will have full details when they're available.

Expect the movie to hit theatres in the Spring or Summer of next year.

Posted by: Ryan on November 18, 2003 6:45 PM

I was also an extra in the movie the same weekend. In fact I remember seeing you sitting at the distant corner table with Jeff Hayes. I was one of the older men. Your account brought back many memories and was a pleasure to read. I was almost vicariously re-living my weekend through your story.

My part was to listen to Vincent Pastore (Frank) talk about property in the area and watch him introduce a guest speaker talk to the kids at the camp. I think I may have some decent camera time, we will see. Thanks for the story and pics.

Posted by: Frank's Friend on December 10, 2003 7:52 PM

WOW!!! This movie looks really cool! Im not too fond of blood and gutsy stuff but Ill have 2 deal wit it since my fave singer GREG RAPOSO is in it :-D Hes the best! Check him out at www.gregraposo.com By the time I finish seeing "Return to Sleepaway Camp" Ill prolly have 2 get the others :-)

Posted by: Marianne R. on December 11, 2003 3:02 PM

Hey!!! Amazing site! I have a sopourting character role in RTSC. I play the camp's biggest nerd, Pee Pee. I can be found on the official web site for the movie as well. I relly enjoyed your take on the production. The actors did a lot of the same things as the extras. It was interesting to see some of thoes pictures, (being in a few of them was also amusing.) On Saturday, Jan. 10th a few cast members (including me) and creative staff members will be apearing at the Fangora convention in Rutherford New Jersey at the Sheraton. Check the official site for all the info. Nice site again...
-Paul

Posted by: Pee on January 3, 2004 11:17 PM

Yo Pee Pee whats up, its Mike Werner, Gibny's older brother in the movie (the guy that is stealing "wankers" girl) Just wanted to say whats up.. I know Mike's thinking of going to the Fangora convention.. let me know how it goes, and if you get any more info. By the way, although extra usually sucks in general--- RTSC is probably the worst youll ever see :-) hopefully thats encouraging.

Posted by: mike on January 4, 2004 6:41 PM

hey, whats up. I'm doing interviews with Jeff from the site about return to sleepaway camp and his involvement. Since you guys were extras would it be alright to do an interview with some of you? If you can't answer some of the questions thats ok.

What is your involvement in the film?

What is your take on the film as oppose to it's predecessor?

Can you give any details as to the story, like a brief synopsis, but not to give away anything that you might want to keep a secret?

Where was this production filmed?

Can we expect this film to go to the cinema or straight to tape?

Is there any release date in mind?

How were the cast and crew?

Can you give us any info about CKY's involvment in the film?

Is there any chance of a CKY song or possibly a new CKY song recorded just for this film?

Will this sequal live up to the original in your eyes.

will it be a sequal to the original, or a sequal to the sequals and will there be possible tie ins(rumor has it, that maybe they'll make Pam Springsteen be a false angela and the real Angela kills her)?

Thanks for reading this and if possible answering any of these, if I do get any response you will have kept many people satisfyed until the release date.
Justin

Posted by: justin on January 4, 2004 8:30 PM

Justin -- if you hit me up with your e-mail address, I'd be happy to answer some of the questions for you.

Posted by: Ryan on January 4, 2004 10:17 PM

skatefilmer89@aol.com

thanks

Posted by: justin on January 5, 2004 7:42 PM

OMG GREG RAPOSO'S IN THIS MOVIE!!!! I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL IT COMES OUT I LOVE GREG SO FIGGIN MUCH OMG OMG OMG!!!! THIS MOVIES GONNA ROCK!!!!!!!

Posted by: Hailey S. on January 10, 2004 12:44 PM

I attended the Fangoria/Chiller event at the Sheraton hotel in East Rutherford, NJ. It was all it was built up to be. Saw some preliminary footage of the film (RTSC) and with the background music, WOW what a treat. I will not say what I saw nor what was discussed except Pee Pee (Paul I.)was not in sight at the event.

As advertised in the show's promotion, Felissa Rose, Paul DeAngelo, Michael Hiltzig and Jeff Hayes were in attendance.

If first impressions are any indication, this film is up there with the 'horror film' genre's best. No exaggeration.

Posted by: frank's friend on January 11, 2004 5:13 PM

Hey, i would like to know anything related to cky and the movie that you might know. thanx

Posted by: Jean on January 15, 2004 2:32 PM

they play counselors in a rec hall scene.

Posted by: justin on January 27, 2004 9:02 PM

Hey, I'm directing a feature film in 2006, we are in pre-production, for a movie called: Dead End Massacre II: Summer Camp Nightmare, and it's kind of a cross between: Sleepaway Camp, A Nightmare on Elm Street, and The Gate. We will be casting soon, and shooting in Upstate NY, and also Long Island. For those interested, send me an email. I'm glad you had fun as an extra.

Posted by: Scott Goldberg on April 12, 2004 2:19 PM

Holy crap greg's in this movie he is so hot OMG!!!! I like so just found out about this too
I am so gonna get this !!!!
GREG!!!!!!!!:)

Posted by: Erica on June 1, 2004 5:03 PM

Hey... I was an extra in this movie as well... I was there every weekend they needed us and I found it to be very interesting... my name is Sasha and this was all so much fun!! I enjoyed your web site and I hope that this was as much fun for you as it was for me!! If you have any info on the movie then email with it at angel_fluffer42069@yahoo.com ... I would really like it if you would email me with the info!! Thanks!!

~*!*~Sasha~*!*~

Posted by: Sasha Johnston on July 3, 2004 1:10 PM

i was an extra in this movie and i am happy to say i had a great time.
I met a lot of the actors and i made friends with them. Michel (the lead a.k.a Allen) was very funny as was Chris a.k.a C.T.
I also made friends with other extras like Sasha and i am proud to say i was in the food fight and i was fun.
My favorite time there was when Sasha Johnson, Lehi Thomas, Jessica Barton, LeeAnn O'Brien, and I (Megan Wenk) were behind a few of the actors when they were being filmed we ended up in a huge stick fight and they filmed the whole thing!
I can't waite for this movie to come out and I aussure you it will be great!


~*Megan*~

Posted by: Megan on July 3, 2004 2:04 PM

I forgot 2 say this before: if u have ne questions for me about the movie my e-mail is m_dogg1113@yahoo.com

Posted by: Megan on July 3, 2004 2:10 PM

i'm rob hiltziks daughter and i was up at the entire shoot and i really enjoyed reading your comments and im sorry about the whole food situation..but the food for the cast and crew was not much better at all as most of the cast was sneaking food from the extras table :o) im really glad you had such a fun time!

Posted by: emily on July 13, 2004 3:16 PM

ps- the pic had asked who the blond guy was in the group pic and he is Adam Wiley - he was in a lot of Disney movies and is very good at magic tricks :o) im the girl in the middle in the bottom row with the jean jacket

any other questions - email me @ HottTamalie77@aol.com

Posted by: emily on July 13, 2004 3:25 PM

Hey I was also an extra in the film and I'm very sadden with the results. I was told that this film would be out in the spring time of 2004 and the truth is it isn't even close to being completed. And does anybody know why the website isn't ever updating on this film? And why it is taking forever to complete? Or why there are people on www.sleepawaycampfilms.com complaining that they still haven't been paid? If you know any of the answers to any of these questions please send me an email sometime.

Thanks
Dan

Posted by: Dan on August 14, 2004 4:35 PM

OK so there this girl in it called samantha and she went to my school and gave a speech and i met her and i talked to her and shes really nice

Posted by: Sammm! on March 20, 2006 4:00 PM

oh my gosh that was the best movie the ending wow i didnt think that could happen great job.

Posted by: minda on September 5, 2006 3:35 PM

I own both, Sleepaway Camp and Friday The 13th. I definitely think Sleepaway Camp is better. 1. Like you said, the character's are unique, they're individuals, unlike the camp counselors in Friday The 13th. And, the ending. The best part and most shocking and unpredictable thing I've seen in a horror movie.

Posted by: Tim on October 17, 2006 7:57 PM

just want to know when the hell its comeing out done got money saved to go see it and buy it when it comes out to dvd

Posted by: randall on April 5, 2007 1:43 PM

I luv tha movie:Sleep away camp,only part 1!!!It was funny at tha end and funny when I found out who tha killer was!!!!hahahahahahaha

Posted by: Keshonna Gill on July 2, 2008 5:23 PM

I luv tha movie:Sleep away camp,only part 1!!!It was funny at tha end and funny when I found out who tha killer was!!!!hahahahahahaha

Posted by: Keshonna Gill on July 2, 2008 5:23 PM

I luv tha movie:Sleep away camp,only part 1!!!It was funny at tha end and funny when I found out who tha killer was!!!!hahahahahahaha

Posted by: Keshonna Gill on July 2, 2008 5:23 PM


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